(Firstly, if you write ‘social’ that many times in a sentence it starts to look wrong, and you start to question yourself as to whether you’re using the right word. Just sayin’.)
On Thursday this week I went to a social media debate at the London Film Museum. I say debate in the loosest sense of the word as it turned out that both sides actually agreed with each other, so a fairly redundant argument, but hey ho.
The motion that was put forward was thus: This house believes that Social Media does not exist in the eyes of your customers.
This was put forward by Neil Kleiner, Head of Social Media for Havas Group (ummm… Neil…. want a job?). On his team were Nadine Sharara, Head of Ecommerce at Thomas Pink, and John Bovill, Group IT Director at Aurora Fashions. The opposing team was made up of Claire Martin, Head of Content for the Press Association, Sam Lumb, Ecommerce Director at Boux Avenue and David Walmsley, Director of Ecommerce at Dixons.
The debate was fairly standard – one side saying social media isn’t a ‘true’ channel for ecommerce, and the other side saying it was. Although actually they both agreed that it was. So no point arguing. I’m not going to go through the whole thing but just raise a few points that I wanted to shout out, but wasn’t able to. This leads me nicely to my first point.
1. We were all there because we were interested in social media and its effect on online sales for a company. I was interested in getting some opinions from the people who are truly entrenched in the industry, but also in hearing the opinions of some of my peers – we are the consumers they are talking about, after all. It was pretty disappointing that we weren’t allowed to join in, or offer opinions when desired. It just turned into about 50 people sitting silently watching six people have a non-argument. Some interaction would have been better – social media is all about interaction… conversation is king… now shut up and let us debate this topic in front of you.
2. ARRRGGGHHHH SOCIAL MEDIA GURUS?! David Walmsley actually pointed to his social media practitioner and said ‘well my social media guru is here with us today…’ and he wasn’t even being ironic. Argh. You’re not a guru. No one’s a ruddy social media guru. Guru is a religious thing, it’s a spiritual leader or teacher, not someone who knows how best to write content for Facebook. And social media hasn’t even been marketing as a proper channel for that long (however, see point 7); how are you a bloomin’ guru?! Eeee it makes my blood boil. (Calm; nice thoughts, fluffy bunnies, clouds…).
3. There was a point made about Twitter in particular; Mr Boux Avenue said that it was definitely and wholly appropriate to use it as a sales channel, and that if a consumer/follower didn’t like being sold to, they could just unfollow them. Really? You’d rather lose your brand exposure and someone keeping you front of mind than go for the softly softly approach? Surely it’d be better to play the game than lose followers? I follow @betfairpoker on Twitter; I think he mentions poker maybe once every two months, but guess what? When I wanted to put a little flutter on the gee-gees for the Grand National, where did I set up an account? He doesn’t sell to me (his most recent tweet: “I wish I’d switched off the webcam before I did those star jumps”) but it gives great brand exposure. Which ultimately led to a sale. Worth it?
4. Actually, a point from me on a business’s place on social networking sites. My favourite analogy of how these things need to work was told to me by Roger Jones (previously of Digitalis). He said that joining networking sites and groups (particularly on LinkedIn I think) is like going to your new local pub. You wouldn’t just walk in there and start trying to sell your wares to people (such as if you’ve just moved so you’ve got some furniture you want to sell, or you are a mobile hairdresser and you want some more business). You’d chat to the locals, get to know them, understand who they are and what they do. You’d become friends and share stories. You’d talk to the landlord, introduce yourself and where you’ve come from. And then, as you got to know them better, you’d be able to pick up on signs, sales triggers, so you could target them in an non-aggressive and helpful way if they needed anything. Same goes for social media; use it wisely and it’ll be your friend, otherwise you’ll find that the locals and the landlord don’t take to you too kindly.
5. At some point in the discussion, Mr Boux Avenue said that the social network users will soon catch up with how social networks work, and then sales will boost from the channel. I think he’s got this the wrong way round – social media sites were not first introduced as a sales pitch; they were for consumers (sorry, not even consumers – this was before we were seen as consumers – we can probably just use the word ‘people’) to interact with each other, to share what was going on in their life and chat about stuff online. It was only when companies realised they could make some dosh out of it that they started to try and use the channel in that way. So, sorry, Mr Boux Avenue, you’re wrong. It’s the companies, the salesmen, that need to catch up/change to fit with the users, not the other way round. Work out why these sites exist and fit in with them, rather than trying to monopolise them for quick sales.
6. And following on from that, I though Neil Kleiner made a great point – as soon as a transaction takes place, it’s no longer a friend relationship, it’s a business relationship. As soon as you sell to someone through social media, and a transaction takes place, it’s no longer social media. It’s a sales tool. So if that’s the case, how can we say that brands are using social media? They’re not; they’re using a website to make transactions. It’s not social media, it’s ecommerce or… shudder… f-commerce. It just so happens to be on a website primarily used for social networking.
7. Social media is nothing new, nothing incredible. It’s been around forever. Remember that the definition of media is just the main means of mass communication. Claire Martin likened a brand not being involved in social media to having a people talk about you in a room where you’re not present. Well, that happens all the time, doesn’t it? Social media sites just make it global and accessible to everyone with a computer. If I stand in a room with six friends and we start talking about a product, and five of them hate it and one loved it, I’d not then go online just to check what the rest of the world thinks; I trust and value my friends’ opinions over Mr AN Other from the thissocialnetwork.co.uk forum. Social media happens offline all the time. Brands can be clever and use it to their advantage, but don’t think that just because you’re ‘listening’ online you’re covering all your bases.
So there we go – the only other thing that I agreed with was that if a company makes a mistake they should ‘fess up and ‘fess up fast. But I’ve said that before. I will become a broken record if I go on about it again.
It was an interesting debate, don’t get me wrong, but I think a lot could have been added it if had been opened to the floor as well, although then the debate may well have gone on until midnight.
I feel like I need to round this post off somehow, so here’s a nice relevant quote from Dr. Ivan Misner. “Networking is not about hunting. It is about farming. It’s about cultivating relationships. Don’t engage in ‘premature solicitation’. You’ll be a better networker if you remember that.”
See you anon, Laura